After 4 years, you would think the problem was they just didnt have clear DNA linkage because Indiana didnt have DNA swab laws for felony arrests in 2017 until the Supreme Court ruled taking DNA swabs for FELONY arrests is constitutional because its the same as taking fingerprints. You might want to though. We know this because in the documents, LE says they are looking for 43 seconds of audio. He also suggested that BG had a deep obsession with lesbian pornography and that people around him would be aware of this. It hadnt occurred to me that you must have an account to get the msg bell! Daniel Nations was arrested on Monday in Colorado in connection with hachet attacks on hikers on a trail. Photo by: FBI/South Carolina Sex Offender Registry. So why waste your money on Hughes and Greeno? Libby was nude and Abby was nude from the waist down. The woman and her children followed the guy around and alerted store personnel who then also watched the man until he quickly purchased an item and left the store. And you would think that they would have run a search on the orange truck and found it came back to Mr. X.. You mean if he lost his key in the forest? They are not about to implicate one or more of their own, so theyve relied on misdirection and omission of key procedures that would have pretty much guaranteed a conviction, not to mention an arrest. We writers love to write and once we get started, we just cant quit, like any other addiction to dope, gambling, sex, porn, or whatever. Leaker also said that the girls bodies were posed in a sexual tableau. How can it not be him? Lets not even get into the crazy discussion of this stupid stuffed animal and the dolls. Richard Allen Indiana Law & Potential Charges Relating to the Delphi Homicide, New Information: Richard Allen is Alleged to Have Processed the Order for Liberty Germans Funeral Photos, Richard Matthew Allen Delphi Homicide Suspect Before and After. Stepson X is Mrs. X's child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. by now there wont be any arrests, period. He threw bleach over stuff and he may have thrown enough bleach to kill most of his incriminating DNA. At the bottom of the hill, Libbys shoe was found by searchers. I dont know. Photo by: El Paso County Sheriff's Department, Texas. Probably not because that evening his wife drove down and gave him an extra set of keys. Like the OJ case. Any of those. It sounds like this guy is lying which is aawful! DELPHI - The year 2021 should be filled with cap & gowns, graduation parties, and college choices for Libby German and Abby Williams. That sounds pretty awful but this is one terrible crime. The document(s) came to me from the owner who lawfully possessed them.. DELPHI, IN - It was Valentine's Day, 2017, when the corpses of two young teen girls, Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail " Abby" Williams, were found under a train bridge. CSI guys wandering the scene. Wonder if her family knew she had a gun. I suppose they use that to uncover those unseen bloodstains. Deputies said an injury consistent with a self-inflicted gunshot wound was discovered during the autopsy. A white Dodge Dart is not involved in the case. Im not talking about beating around the bushes of masking facts and truths as I did above with the documents statement. So BG came to the south end of the bridge before the crime occurred and disabled the camera. Id LOVE to be very wrong on this! Its even crazier than this update! However, I can now prove this is true because LE is looking for photos, videos, film, cameras, and/or videocameras. AGE 20s Daniel Pearson Camden, IN View Full Report Relatives Quinton S Pearson Scott Martin Pearson Tracy A Pearson Phone Address AGE 70s A youngster who livedacross the street from Etter says she did not feel good when he tried to strike up a conversation with her. However, Leaker said that LE cleaned the audio up and transcribed it as best as they could. Its left to speculation but to many the voice sounds like a middle aged man with a gravelly voice. No idea. Keep in mind that for the above to be true, BG must have constructed this entire Disney World Crime Scene in a mere 45 minutes! They barely knew the girls were missing at 6 pm. They were discovered near the Monon High Bridge Trail, Fox59 reported, which is part of the Delphi. Ive met some new folks lately, and they all say, You know, I heard all these horrible things about you, but I wasnt sure if they were true. Although Mr. X claims that he called his wife to come bring an extra set of car keys, his truck stayed there overnight and into the next day, which seems odd. So far it seems to be a hoax, as the woman is still alive and posting on fb., https://www.reddit.com/r/DelphiCaseDiscussion/comments/83sgk7/have_a_look_at_this_folks/. And this guy claims he killed this Jennifer, police know he did this and have the ashes. But what shocks me is how little these men give their audiences in return for their purchases. He controlled them with the gun. In which case, both of the guardians would be wrong. And in 2009 they swabbed my mouth for DNA for the FBI database. Unfortunately, just after being admitted membership I saw bubbafudpucker was a member. He found the bodies and B. They crossed the line when they contacted LE. There are cases like this all over the country. This will be a follow-on to my earlier post here. In February 2017, they were about halfway through the eighth . Id appreciate it if people would leave this fellow alone. Comment Page 5 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby, Delphi Homicide Abby Williams Libby German Indiana serial killer, http://www.kktv.com/content/news/BREAKING-Human-remains-found-in-Teller-County-476433893.html, Comment Page 2 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicide of Abby and Libby Closed for comments, Comment Page 3 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicide of Abby and Libby, Comment Page 4 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby, Comment Page 6 Please continue comments here on the Delphi homicides of Abby and Libby. At the time of the crime, Mr. X lived two miles from the crime scene. It is considered to be a solid alibi in terms of taking the case to court. So does Mr. X look and sound like B.G.? However, spent cartridges were found by LE, who says they were fired by BG. Hi J! Im disappointed in the media and news outlets for not investigating this further. Ok they know that this friend is lying about seeing him in some other town at the time of the crime. INDIANAPOLIS -- While Daniel Nations remains behind bars in Colorado, his wife spoke with WTTV about her husband being named a person of interest in the deaths of two teenage hikers in Delphi . There are just entirely too many coincidences. However, the photos I will discuss today are from this video. Kelsi has been cleared. In cases like these, possible suspects who seem like good possibilities for being the culprit are often run through the ringer, only to be dismissed. On what day did this crime occur? Yes, that is really sad. Theres no way to pretty up this pig. But we never had any idea that a gun was fired during this crime! This is so ridiculous. Your email address will not be published. The girl thinks he believes it himself because hes so far gone on drugs. Unless youre someone to whom hate is as valuable as oxygen. I have more to say about this crime as usual, but Ive gone on long enough. At 6 PM, Mr. X asked permission to search Ron Logans land. So do the Indiana State Police pretty much know who it is but just dont have enough to lock it down tight in court for a conviction? Oh. This theory fails so badly on logic alone that its amazing how much traction it got. The same woman above also apologized for being mad at me over this rumor. Both of those behaviors seem pretty over the top, even for such a gruesome crime. I didnt think they had all the bones. Jen will be referring to Garrett Kirts and his crew. Although it was dusk, it would seem to be hard to miss the girls right below where his truck was parked. It's left to speculation but to many the voice sounds like a middle aged man with a gravelly voice. Abby and Libby were murdered after going for a hike near an old bridge in February 2017. Theres just so much posted there. This complicates the case immeasurably. A previous report said that some sort of bleach or toilet bowl cleaner was thrown on the girls bodies, in particular their genitalia, in order to destroy DNA evidence of the crime. This book continues to stand out in the field for its strategic approach, solid research base, comprehensive range of topics, even-handed examination of oral and written channels, and focus on managerial, not entry-level, competencies. Libby had gotten smitten with this young man and wanted to meet him. I just realized it when you said right next to my profile circle. The coroner says she shot and killed herself. However, his middle name is different. I mentioned above that there was a rumor that BG had taken photos and video and had sent them to Abbys phone after the crime. The people paying Hughes and Greeno clearly feel that they are getting their moneys worth. People have asked them previously, and they said, We dont care about him (Lindsay). He could always say that he lost his key while he was searching for the girls. Lets play with this a bit more. Orsolya Gaal Unsolved Homicide April 16, 2022 Queens NY. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. Who all found the bodies is still quite up in the air. They beat their fists on the table endlessly that only verified information, not rumors, must be discussed. Fox breaking news! Hes not very pleasant anyway. Katelyn. Did her suspicions go too far? It has to be at least 4 characters long and I havent thought of what Id like to replace FMJ with yet. The crime had Satanic overtones. We judge that false. Unbelievable. This network has also likely used the bad reputation of some of the family members against them due to prior arrests and perhaps even past/current involvement in local crimes, not to mention out and out threats. Reply . Presumably one of the wounds to the girl(s) was via this sort of a knife. This man added that Abby had a branch plunged into her body just below her solar plexus in her chest. But its all a big mystery. You can write anything you want. I know the FBI is mad about my articles on the Evansdale Killer because the guy Im talking about is a major suspect. My comment bell is right next to my profile circle in the upper right corner. Hopefully the next article will be the capture of the killer. How bout one more one more thing, just to try your patience? LE is also looking for knives, presumably hunting knives as Leaker averred. At some point during the searching, he claimed to have lost his keys. Maybe because I use a pc as opposed to a phone or tablet? This unidentified man was seen in a West Lafayette park in mid-April 2017. That the girl was attacked in this terrible manner is also completely unconfirmed. Add to it or simply scroll through and soak it up. Sort of, Im sure glad thats over. We love it yet its a chore. I would like to apologize for the fact that these photos are very small. So terrible. BG then handcuffed the girls and said, Down the hill. The girls pleaded with him to let them go, that they are sorry and they wont do it again, etc. The drama ended when 55-year-old Etter fired a gun and took his own life 50 miles from the spot where the bodies of Abby and Libby were found. The idea that this guy woke up at age 51 and decided to commit a masterful double murder stretches credulity. Police also released a very brief audio clip of the suspect taken from that same video. God I hate that phrase but theres a time and place for all things. Turns out it was a great big dead end, one of many in this case. They were just saying that the girls were going to the bridge that day. This rumor is 100% confirmed. This is no ordinary garage: it's a rabbit hole of true crime, with a generous supply of alcohol and banter to li Hed obviously planned this out in advance. We believe he hit her with the butt end of the handgun you can see in his right hand pocket of his jacket on the BG video. They also need to somehow connect Mr. X to the catfish on Snapchat in some way or other. On the other hand there is a new rumor that a gut knife was left at the scene. As you can see, LE sources are not so reliable. Sure, murder isnt pretty. Indiana absolutely had DNA swab laws in 2017. I hate to think that but it happens so frequently these days. Problem is its not free. It keeps he from missing any comments. What are the odds a guy who to a T resembles BG is needing to search in an area that later becomes where these two girls were brutally murdered? He hid it somewhere at the CPS building? We have caught Hell and high water for this one, however, this rumor has some staying power. OK. I dont have a comment bell? Assuming the photos below are valid interpretations, the girls are not posed in any obvious lesbian sex act. TT, the comments dont line up the best and it can be super difficult to find old posts, but I like the way you communicate (and direct), and I like & appreciate everyones contributions. But if it took place on an earlier date, we sure havent heard about anyone turning themselves in and Im sure these guys would not miss the video opportunity. 2:13, 2/13, and 2-13. There are two people between the owner and me. Alleged Delphi Killer Richard Allen Serial Killer? If we were restricted to merely discussing what has been verified by LE, thered be nothing to talk about. It seems odd he would post it if it was just tonight as anyone could go to this guys house or contact police. Im hazarding a guess that it wasnt a 22 anyway. Ok, consistent with isnt saying definitively it was self-inflicted. We dont know. He parked by the cemetery to ask permission from Ron Logan to search his land. He also said that if hes a poser, he should have killed again by now because these guys cant control themselves, a reflection of their extreme pathology. Instead, we feel, via Leaker, that Abby was struck over the head with a blunt object (we believe it was the killers gun). They cant. At a presser, LE said, We believe we have something of yours. My and fellow sleuths guess is that the something of his that LE has is his car keys. Daniel Nations is a registered sex offender in Florida, Indiana and South Carolina because of the 2007 indecent exposure incident. Instead, their families are holding on to the hope that this is the year their killer is brought to justice. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. Hes very good at what he does. It does make reading and replying to messages so much easier! Greeno and stroup need 2 shut up. The catfish appears to have been the killer himself. Im sure LE has their hands full. Leaker said, in shocking news, that Mr. Xs phone was pinging at the abandoned Child Protective Services (CPS) building for several hours around the time of the murders. According to Leaker, Mr. X was involved in the search party. Have a cup of coffee and think of sunshine and smiles instead. To me other than the glaring obvious eye q test that Mr X passes with flying colors (its so obviously him from that alone that this whole case is actually quite embarrassing on LEs behalf if you ask me), if it can be confirmed via Logan, thats it for me. She must have commented after I watched it as I had read the comments. The problem here is that LE hasnt told us a damned thing. See if you can enlarge them. Mr. X is the prime suspect for a variety of reasons. I figured he was friends with Tobe. Carter added the probable cause affidavit. Based on the facts laid out, he can only mean a Delphi resident, recently moved to Monticello, who I will call Mr. X. I could use his initials but that doesnt seem right. And we dont know if any of these three have been searched by police either. So theres a few ways they could make an arrest now but it doesnt look real hopeful. All the art you never knew you needed. Also there was a small shrine with flowers inside the structure. Not to mention this guys life would be in danger. Outlines of the bodies of the two victims. The thump sound is thought to be BG hitting her over the head with a blunt object. My mother had a friend who hiked into the woods and committed suicide. This was not a gun crime in that a gun was not the murder weapon. If he wants to be recognized as a legitimate media source then he needs to research. Quite a bit of new information came out a few weeks ago via an appearance by a man named Leaker, identified above. Thats really terrible. Do you know when this conversation took place? I might use their prose for toilet paper or lining bird cages, but I certainly wont read it. No one can take him seriously when hes putting this stuff out there. Everyone is so worried about falsely accusing innocent individuals, but people forget that those falsely accused are usually vindicated. Even if this guy does think the virus were killed by Mexicans he has no proof. So LE is looking for the clothing he wore that day with bloodstains seen and unseen. I dont understand the part about unseen bloodstains, but apparently when you get blood on your clothes, not all of it is visible and some can only be seen with special tools. Im glad I followed the link from Reddit to an earlier post. Exactly. Were the lost keys found? The only murder stories that are somewhat comfortable to read have been so cleaned up that theyre almost not worth reading. During the course of the ongoing investigation numerous potential suspect names and photos have crossed various forums, blogs, social media and news outlets, this blog included. They also were into ritualswarlocks, etc. However, assuming the images below are correct, both girls legs were spread very wide after they were killed. Also we now have two cases where we can try to gather evidence against him. But sitting here listening to this call.. He had told his SO details about the case, and we got the data from there. When does the risk outweigh the benefit? A previous report noted, in stunning news, that the killer had known Libby for 3-4 months before the murders via social media. Who is Jennifer? They have pathologically doubted everything and anything that anyone ever said about this crime. Perhaps the most incredible fact in the document is LE stating that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. If you hate me that much, just go away. This is because Mr. X lost his keys at some point. According to Leaker, after BG accosted the girls, he said he was a police officer and they were trespassing on private property (they were not). The suspect has been described as a white male, reddish-brown hair, 56 510 in height and 160-220 lbs in weight. Its as bad as scientific misconduct is for a scientist. In addition, the Indiana State Police were verified as harassing this man at one point by repeatedly calling him on the phone. Leaker also said that there were religious aspects to the murders. With no clear features and a very common midwestern look, BG looks like pretty much every man with hair that ranges from dark brown to red to dark blondeand without blue eyes. Kind of like, you know, life. The pixelated images released by investigators dont offer much to go on as the mans facial features cannot be seen. I agree a lot of silly stuff is being posted at DelphiMurders but people dont have to agree with what someone presents and they can choose to ignore it or state what they do think (without all the injury and insults theyre hurling). The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. Im not saying its true, people. I wondered if it was a planned trip and he knew of it. Mr. X needs to step up and tell the truth. Yes, there is a Youtube broadcast where he says that Mr. X asked to search his property at that time. Leaker also said that if the catfish can be connected to Mr. X, an arrest will be possible. Not only can it result in a defamation suit but it just might ruin someones life, not to mention impede the investigation. Which brings me to the question, why not donate to our enterprise here? Excellent article. Who is Richard (Ricky) Matthew Allen? The murder weapon in the case was a knife. I have a photocopy of the document. I dont blame you. But time and place, etc. Photo by: FBI/Johnson County Sex Offender Registry. Afterall, hes out there somewhere. So that complicates matters. If they can place him at the CPS building, they can make an arrest. How does LE they know that the spent cartridges they found were fired by BG? This post has now been updated. http://gazette.com/more-remains-found-by-pikes-peak-trail-missing-womans-vehicle-abandoned-nearby/article/1622494, http://www.fox21news.com/news/local/human-remains-found-on-hiking-trail-in-teller-county/1029900880. Glad you are back! Supposedly writing too much is a sign of a lousy writer, but then we must convict Balzac and Dickens, not to mention encyclopedists like Pynchon and the king of the graphomaniacs, Proust. She was also stabbed in the main artery of her neck. I believe he claims to have lost his keys while searching. Is there any place on record that Ron Logan confirms Mr X asked to search his property? This is correct, and I have additional evidence that will prove this. This request can be linked to the truck hidden at the cemetery as this is where he obviously was parked when he made this request, however, we do not know when the truck arrived there. A previous report said that at least two searchers touched the bodies and one tried to revive the girls with mouth to mouth resuscitation. Money? Aristocrat Constance Marten and Sex-Offender Mark Gordon's Missing Baby Found Dead in Countryside, Cops Say, GOP Legislator Introduces Bill That Would Eliminate Florida's Democratic Party, Florida Student, 17, Who Attacked Teacher to Be Tried as Adult, Woman Convicted in Connection to Lady Gaga Dognapping Sues Singer for $500,000 Reward Money, 5 Ballet Dancers Seriously Injured in California Hit-and-Run Car Crash Strive to Heal to Return to the Stage, 17-Year-Old Michigan Boy Slain by 13-Year-Old and 14-Year-Old Who He Offered Ride Home on Cold Night: Police. His truck was parked overnight, hidden in the cemetery right above where the girls were found. And an ISP detective told me, We dont care what you write. King World Productions Inc. 2023 Inside Edition Inc. and CBS interactive Inc., Paramount companies. Everyone talks about these aerial crime scene area photos ad nauseam, but now I can at least make out possible outlines. Im the author. How about getting your moneys worth? I worked as an assistant editor of a magazine. So it must not be true then. Required fields are marked *. Maybe when I register/sign-up Ill get the notification bell. Theres so much we dont know about this case, and LE isnt exactly helping matters. Why not donate to the best Delphi sleuthing team of all by donating to me, leader of a group of 230+ sleuthers who have been working on the case for four years now? No doubt this goes with the video that was shot, the video being of unknown length. Recant your alibi and admit you lied and we wont prosecute you. 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A youngster who lived across the street from Etter says she did not feel good when he tried to strike up a conversation with her. So LE thinks that fact that BG abducted those girls at precisely 2:13 in the afternoon is no coincidence. We are not going to say which girl it was. What were the mans telling suspicions that alerted her? All attempts to find the killers IP addresses or texts or photos of the catfish on Snapchat have come up empty for whatever reason. Per court documents from that incident, the witness told police that Nations exposed himself and then asked her, You want to get on this? Ive heard LE comment that a suspect was seen within 10-15 miles from a victim location. The high continues the whole time, and theres relief when youre done as in an accomplished chore instead of a crash. He posted a teaser for it days ago. Rightfully so. Detective Ken Mains Detectives Analysis Video Breakdown Delphi Double Homicide, $325,000 Reward Offered for the Information That Leads to the Arrest & Conviction of a Man Wanted in a Double Homicide Delphi IN 2/13/17. I guess well know soon enough. I will make certain we dont lose any of the comments. Photo by: FBI/Florida Sex Offender Registry, El Paso County Sheriff's Department, Texas, Indianapolis, IN Interactive Weather Radar. Why is this important? BG is everyone yet no one. This is one of my professions. On February 13, or 2-13. So I have to cover my tracks pretty well here because I dont want to reveal my sources. Thats all Im going to say about that. But oh, now we have 2 homicides in the same CO wooded area he was living in while chasing people with hatchets. So we dont have any special sources about this case as my critics claim. Boy the way, there are cases like this all over the country where the cops think someone killed people or is even a serial killer but they simply dont have enough evidence to take it to court. Propane is propane, but our service is where we separate . By the way, Ive heard of doppelgangers, but who ever thought there could be a double doppelganger? This video went to far. People on various media have suspected everyone of being the killer from the girls family to their own family to a known sex offender to a guy they once worked with to a guy walking around a Walmart hundreds of miles from Delphi. Leaker says the second sketch is a sketch of the catfish photo that the killer used to lure Libby on Snapchat where she was catfished. What follows, according to the families of the girls who LE played the tape for, is six minutes of garbled conversation in which the girls and BG are talking as they walk through the woods, the sound of the forest floor crunching beneath their feet. That way his phone could not be tracked to the crime scene. Only new items and old items that have changed will be listed here. 595 Followers, 803 Following, 156 Posts - See Instagram photos and videos from Daniel Pearson (@danno_pearson) Not sure which is worse the nonsense or the offense. He later said he lost his car keys and was looking for them. However, cellphone data is generally not admissible in court, and anyway, Mr. X can always say that he was elsewhere and his phone just happened to be pinging at the CPS building looking for a signal, so this evidence cannot be used in court. "I was a little creeped out. I may never hike or camp again! Theyre often pretty suspicious people. But I wonder how certainly they can conclude the wound was self inflicted vs staged in a body so decomposed it was virtually unidentifiable. Hi Dan, we dont know if a search warrant has been issued for Mr. X, his home, or his vehicle. 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