So, I found an avocado variety calendar, on gregalder.com, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/IMG_20170831_071354-1-e1504273347755.jpg, https://gregalder.com/yardposts/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/WP_20160104_09_07_06_Pro.jpg, but I am still struggling and have no idea what second variety would be the best choice. I have no idea if it was a great one or a terrible one. Hass is amazing in this way. Marin, known for cultivating new crops, also grew Isabella grapesthen sold the resulting wine to sea captains, off what is now Vineyard Avenue in Honolulu. I made one for my mom in her backyard about six years ago and its doing well. Tamp the soil down around the tree's . Highlights. The other two are not doing well. Thanks for the good ideas. I wanted to say I appreciate all you do with your website and videos. The main reason Id choose Reed is that its harvest season complements the Hass. Started producing at 3? The Nabals I know are a bit of both, and not small trees if left unpruned. Its season should complement the GEM even better, and the growing pattern seems like its columnar as well. Were getting a couple of avocado trees to plant in Pasadena. Do you have any neighbors with avocado trees in their yard? The tree is around 12 ft. Please find attached the pictures of the avocado tree in Nice (the variety is unknown, picture taken on the 1st of November). They're known to be exceptionally creamy. At best, carrying a super heavy crop load usually means that the following years crop will be very light. I love your articles!! Denny. Avocado trees produce thousands of flowers and only about one in 5000 sets fruit. Your climate in Temecula is similar to mine in Ramona: a bit hot in summer; a bit cold in winter . I feel like all of them doesnt have a good overlap in terms of flowering season, what can i do to make sure they get polinated enough? Carmen and GEM are definitely both worth adding to your collection in terms of being great tasting, high yielding, and having good hang time. This is important information indeed. Give your avocado tree about 15 feet of space from other trees and plants. This is so fun! In the wild this means a range of flying and crawling insects, but in Western Australia this is . I have been watching this tree for years since I work in the area, had some fruit once they turned black and they taste exactly like Fuerte! Oh yes, I found an avocado tree in Nice!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks! Thanks. There are so many in the Santa Barbara area. That sounds like a nice combination of trees, and it sounds like theyre growing very well. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); I'm Greg. . Im considering a 6 X 10 planting. Even in warm-winter locations it doesnt always bear as well as some A types. I just dont understand it. And if its a tiny tree youre after, then it doesnt get much smaller than Holiday (XX3). In 1992, the USDA banned shipment of the Sharwil avocados after an oriental fruit fly larva was found in a Hawaiian packinghouse that processed Sharwil avocados and other local produce. Wish Maddocks was open on the weekend so i could check it out. As Adrian alluded to above, Hass and Reed are A types while Fuerte is a B type, which makes cross-pollination all the more likely, enhancing fruit set. Ive seen numerous examples of this throughout Southern California. I dont know anything about salt in soil, never heard of it on the French Riviera. See if you can find a Reed to try again in September and youll probably get a richer flavor from it. Mateo. We will sell trees at various ages and transport to other islands. So since youre buying from Subtropica, Id get any clonals they have, if available, and then plan to wrap the trunk next winter to protect the rootstock and graft union area from cold. While having less fat may seem appealing, the fats contained in Hass avocados are really rather healthful. Hi Joseph, I live in southern CA zone 10b near Los Angeles. A couple other options might be Fuerte and Bacon. As for rootstocks, I havent seen them make a difference in my yard in terms of cold tolerance of the tree as a whole. You might find this answer boring, in which case Id be willing to bet that you dont already have a Hass tree in your yard. Hi David, So, right now I still want to plant two avocado trees))))) I still want to plant a Hass, but I havent decided on the second variety. We got a Hass today, and were planning to plant it tomorrow in the sunniest spot in our yard, which usually stays pretty warm, even when its chilly. But Im guessing. I think, my garden is in the 10a zone. Hi Greg, thank you for your posts. Fuerte, Atkins has a bunch of other varieties that you never see around. In Point Loma/Sunset Cliffs, just make sure the trees arent stressed from lack of water and you should prevent whatever fruitlet drop is possible to prevent. My head was spinning, trying to develop the perfect avocado plan for my hillside. Not always, but usually. Ive enjoyed reading your posts as I consider my Avocado plant. I wish I could visit that old Puebla. Should be interesting to see how it works out. Thanks again. One has more green on it than the other. The fruit must be of good size. But yes, Lamb, Reed, and Fuerte all have higher salt tolerance than Hass. I really, really appreciate this article. I would love to grow one or graft a branch onto a tree I have after researching about how great the fruit tastes. I am jealous you are growing all those Hawaiian varieties and am interested in what you have to say about taste once that time comes and how the trees are doing. Any new varieties being developed by Mary Lu Arpaias breeding program at UC Riverside take decades before theyre released to be propagated and sold to the public. Im about to head to subtropica nursery to buy three trees. Do you agree that GEM would be a good choice? So with just these two trees, Id have the highest quality avocados in the world for most months of the year. Hi Greg, (it is tempting to just buy a larger tree but im in it for the long run). Thin skin but good flavor. Thanks. (Compare that to many peaches, which cant hold their mature fruit for more than a couple weeks!). What would be smarter choice? I have a 60% shade cloth for my Fuerte. And dont worry about the distance. Ill try some beneficial predator mites next. In my (very limited) gardening experience, I noticed that choosing the right variety is not everything, one has to be sure it will function well in the conditions ones got. But at least it was grown in Southern California. Do you need two avocado trees to get fruit? 7. by Laurie Meadows. But first let me say thank you. Avocados don't ripen while hanging on the tree. Great to hear! Hi Greg. I want to reorder a Hass (on Duke-7), as you recommended earlier. (I fear the size they grow but now that I have experience I realize that avocados are easy to prune and bounce back.). We have acreage The Land located above Hilo, Hawaii, at 800 foot elevation. Like Lamb, it will drop some fruit about now in spring before its mature, but you still always end up with a good crop. Thanks a lot for contributing this. The tree's canopy can range in shape from low, dense, and symmetrical, to upright and asymmetrical. Our hydrangeas have always been pink, not a hint of blue, no matter the quantity of theSoil Acidifiermy mother added.I think our PH is around 7, not less. Lots of great Hass are grown in nearby Morro Bay. Greg, youre awesome! Hass avocado is perhaps one of the most famous avocado types and considered by many to be the best.The flavour is quite intense and the flesh is very creamy, perfect for guacamole.. Until the 1930s, Fuerte was the best-known variety in the USA, until Rudolf Hass, a green fingered postman, planted some avocado seeds for a small plantation.Hass then patented the tree he chose and it was later . Which is the best? Taste Ive read is great. Bonny Doon Avocado. Thank you!! (I have numerous other avocado trees near my Gwen.) So keep that in mind. Its been a great summer in OB/Pt Loma. With this global warming trend I think it might be time for U.C. Its super helpful for us newbies . When your Hass avocado tree is newly planted, it will need to be watered every two to three days. The trees are doing spectacularly, especially the Nabal with 18 almost baseball size avocados on it. Good luck with the Reed. Jan Boyce is an A-type avocado variety, but Sir-Prize, Bacon, Sharwil, and Nabal are Bs. Also, this winter had me buying avocado from Mexico, which is either small and cheaper, or XL and pricey. We can all hope, cant we? Just got some bee hives in this year and a decent fruit set, just hope the heat stays mild this summer. Avocado - Hass (A Flowering Variety): Possibly the most popular of all avocados, Hass bears incredibly flavoursome fruits that keep well. Or do you have any tips that may make it work? Or is Dusa just the best variety to this day (as these articles say), and in any case it will be better than Duke 7? Is that the same down South? My third choice would be Hass and Lamb. One, get only the hardier varieties, such as Fuerte, Bacon, Zutano, or Puebla. Sharwil Avocados are medium-sized pear shaped fruits characterized by their rough green skin, which stays green and does not turn black as it ripens. Is there something I can do to prevent the drop, or is it just survival of the fittest? So sorry to hear about your trees. By the way, all of these varieties Reed, Lamb, GEM, Sir Prize taste really good so I wouldnt choose one over the other because of taste. https://ibb.co/BNxp1W8 (rpondu) Blogue Fruits et Lgumes. I noticed that usually the soil in big box stores are not the best for avocados but that seems to be changing as the last tree I bought (Ettinger) came in black sand. Here is how some of my trees looked after that record heat of July 2018: https://youtu.be/Umm_WOoGERo, I just want to say your posts and YouTube profile videos have been an amazing tool for me! Will do. I sprayed today and will keep it up. Hi Greg, Our greenhouse has 14ft ceilings. Sometimes the selection and quality is terrible, but sometimes its excellent. Some percentage of fruitlet drop always happens, due to incomplete pollination and other unknown factors. Medium spreading canopy. Theres likely to be at least a little variation in your yard. This is according to these articles of course. Thanks for the detail and everything you do. Also no information whether it is a clonal rootstock or a seedling one (for avocado trees). Ive been looking at farmers markets in San Diego, no luck so far. I wanted to tell you that it appears that there is a Fuerte/Hass cross in Lafayette which is in the bay but just over the hills and away from the fog. At my place Gwen seems to be doing fine in the heat but it is getting some afternoon shade from a large live oak. Its season should complement the GEM well, and the growing pattern shouldnt be too intrusive. I also planted a Queen avocado tree in the spot where the Holiday was. Im guessing youre referring to Van Nuys as being slightly cooler in winter (compared to spots closer to the beach). Sharwil avocados from . The Hass has a ton and the Fuerte as well. Pinkerton Avocado. Hass avocados make up 95% of all the avocados eaten in the USA but you may be surprised to learn that the humble Hass is one of the newest varieties of avocado and didn't even exist before the 1920's. It is only slightly pebbled with yellowish bumps, much smaller than the ones found on a Hass. Both can be considered "creamy," but Hass has higher levels of fat which makes. What do you think, is it overkill to have two Hass trees? But I still hesitate about the rootstock variety. I have a place near my citrus trees. The state dealt in the Sharwil variety of avocado, which some say is superior in taste and texture and yields more flesh. Avocado strains include Nishikawa, Sharwil, and Lamb Hass. Thank you for your great thoughts on Avos! TREE SIZES. Our Avocado Varieties. Big and green are the two fatal qualities that prevent Reeds acceptance as a commercial variety in todays small and black Hass world. Depending on the cultivar, avocados have green, brown, purplish, or black skin, and may be pear-shaped, egg-shaped, or spherical. Im familiar with Stassens style of pruning and training young avocado trees to a central leader. Looks like my own graft will take. On the other hand, I have read of some Gwen trees that dont set fruit well without a pollenizer tree nearby. Greg, I would like a dwarf variety to keep in a large pot on a deck about 4 miles from the San Diego Coast. Im still fairly new to farming and have a ~280 Hass grove (Fuerte rootstock) in inland San Diego (Ramona), so I am always fascinated with learning about these trees. All of this is very complicated, but very inspiring!!!! As a matter of fact, choosing the varieties was just the beginning)))) Because Ive become more and more concerned about getting production from my trees since I cant afford the water otherwise, Ive been moving toward A types in general since they produce better in my yard. Thats a fun project. And compared to Reed, Fuertes production isnt as consistently high. Step 4. Anne. Thanks, Keith. Anything you can pass my way will be appreciated. The fruit has black, medium-thick skin and an oval shape. PS (I prefer this to their compost, which is a bit overcooked and too fine for my liking. Thanks for these contributions. Elevated a 12 foot circle 8 inches with landscape stones and filled with wood chips. They grow great but just dont produce as much fruit. If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. I fertilized more, watered less, and now its in perfect shape. (I have to confess this is a real problem of our nation.. No information whatsoever about rootstocks in the nurseries And then people are surprised that their cherry or apricot trees dont fruit). This is how I got to this blog, but I never found any mention of high density. But Ill let you know how they grow. Elizabeth. You just have to do a little pruning to make sure they share sunlight and space. Two months ago my Nabal (in SoCal) was also developing a lot of yellow leaves with brown veins, and falling off. Every avocado tree has flowers that are perfect-that is, they are both male and female. My Reed and Lamb trees held onto so much fruit that I later had to remove some by hand in order to prevent branches from breaking. One thought would be to graft an A and a B to the same tree with similar seasons for cross pollination. Its significantly bigger than Hass, as seen in the photo above, andReed also stays green when its ripe. The Nabal is really dropping a lot of yellowing leaves daily and making me nervous about over or under watering or something else I might be causing. Seeing as you can go buy a Hass avocado in your local supermarket any day of the year, maybe you might consider a different variety that you can't otherwise find. On the other hand, he plants GEM at 10 feet because it is less vigorous than Hass. This is an interesting set of parameters. Edranol, Ettinger, Hass, Sharwil and Zutano were mid-season flowerers. Hardiness: Average to 28F. Although I enjoy the diversity of tastes in most all avocado varieties, theres something about Fuerte fruits that hit the target for me. I dont think it is possible to attach files to the commentaries ongregalder.com, so I will send you pictures by email. Thanks for all of these wonderful updates. how come i never thought about this! Which basically means it may be grafted on just anything. reading on other forums, ive seen comments that its better in the long run to plant a smaller size tree (3 gallon +) compared to a larger 15+ gallon size tree.that the smaller size tree will out perform and out grow the larger gallon size in the future. I wish I had time to make more videos. The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. The fruit of domestic varieties have smooth, buttery, golden-green flesh when ripe. I see a lot of posts about cold tolerant avocado trees, how about heat tolerant (besides reed)? I cant imagine between them, my brother and I, that it will be a problem, lol. The Mexicola Grande avocado is the most frost-resistant of all avocado varieties. However, I did a lot of research, and read dozens of artciles in English, mostly about growing avocados in the US and all the different varieties (when it come to planting something new, I pay a lot of attention to the variety choice) You are going to be in avocado heaven soon. Im ruthless with pruning shears (you have to be), Youre welcome to check out Piet Stassen and his pruning technique displayed at UC Irvine. . Sharwil avocados are the only Hawaiian avocado authorized for shipment to the mainland of the United States. years, 7 now. I love old trees like that. The best months for planting are typically March through June, depending on where you live. And if I couldnt find a Fuerte, Id substitute a Pinkerton. Step 6. I decided to follow your advice and plant one Reed and one Hass. Make sure that you water the tree every day to retain the moisture, and remove it to an area that still gets sunlight during cold weather moths, but is protected from frosts and freezes (a large sunny room is perfect). Many thanks in advance for your help and advice! Also I was thinking of grafting Lamb Hass onto the Hass so I can extend that season. So, in a sense, you dont want to disturb them. In fact, it is precisely the microbes in there doing their work that produce the enzyme called cellulase which is said to fight the pathogenic fungus that causes root rot disease in avocados (Phytophthora cinnamomi). Usually the soil we get up here for avocados is more suited for stone fruit. There is no bitterness or bacony note. Just to imagine your future for a second: Youll be eating SirPrize avocados around now in March, then youll switch over to GEM sometime around late spring, then youll end the summer and head into fall with Reeds; oh, here comes the next crop of SirPrize fruit starting to blacken its skin and tell you that its time to pick. Now I have all three. by Greg Alder | Mar 23, 2018 | Avocados | 167 comments. Thank you in advance for your assistance. This has happened before when a local avocado grower put a video of a seedling with huge avocados up on YouTube. The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. A whole avocado contains around 11.8 grams of carbs ( 1 ). Ive done it with some of my trees; with others I allow low branching, multiple leaders, and more of a globe shape overall. I have two questions for you: Especially since I have a big interest in Hawaiian varieties it is difficult to know what the season will be in OC. Such great information for gardening in San Diego! ), If I had to choose a pair for your location, I think Id try the combination of Pinkerton and Gwen or Reed. I have a friend down here in Southern California who also is very happy with his Zutano tree. As far as Reed vs. Sharwil for this type of climate, Id tentatively give the edge to Reed. Maybe I should dig a 5th hole. Thanks Greg. I am looking for a variety that would : Im jealous. As good as some other avocados are, nothing pleases me quite as much as eating a high quality Fuerte. For your milder location though, this might not be important. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. I also like Maddock. I picked up the last Reed from Walter Andersens last week and a little Fuerte. See my post on Where to buy an avocado tree, and contact Subtropica Nurseries to inquire there. Im very close to cutting mine down. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. 1) be reliable cropper, a variety that gives high yields, even as a solo-tree (we dont have other avocados in our neighourhood, and my two trees, not flowering at the same time, would be considered as solo-trees) But sometimes I dont get lucky with that method, in which case I go to the Miramar Landfill in San Diego where they process such wood chips along with other yardwaste by composting it for a couple weeks and screening it. Reed Avocado Greengold Avocado. In fact, Hass also produces more reliably than Fuerte in most places. They have smooth, glossy skins and high water content. That being said, I have eaten excellent Sharwils from the De Luz area as late as October. My second choice would be Hass and Fuerte. I hope your trees grow lightning fast! We had a hass 4 years back that sun burned to death. Best of luck with the Reed. There are lots of other very good avocado varieties. For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. Eli also sells his avocados at farmers markets, and the one closest to you is in Corona Del Mar. Ive never tasted one but wondering how it compares to Reed and Hass in your opinion. I would still choose Hass as my single tree in Van Nuys, and Reed should do well there too. However, apart from my own garden, I do some gardening in my parish churchs park, also in Nice. Queen Avocado. I know Sylmar, and I would guess that my neighborhood is slightly milder than yours even though my area is also on the hot side in summer and chilly side in winter, as far as most of Southern California goes. Heavy clay is the worst for Hass avocado trees, but if you have no other choice, create a raised bed or a mound with a 3-5 foot diameter to plant the tree on. Hi David, Maybe I should just roll the dice! D'Arturo Avocado. I have a hilly area for my trees and its not practical for ladders, so Im looking to plant avocado trees that are easier to pick, great tasting, high yielding and can hang for some time on the tree (ideally). Which town or area are you in? They should do well for you. Im in a hot area of Bay Area northern Ca. I would stick to A types though. Recently I moved to the cusp of Zones 9a and 9b. come up with some heat resistant varieties. I have a Reed on Dusa that is doing very well. Stay sharp! I would eliminate the Wertz on the basis of the others tasting better. Horizontally? I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. What a find. Sharwil, Stewart, Sir Prize, Hass and Holiday dont seem to do as well here in comparison. Avocado oils are high in monounsaturated fats, which are beneficial for your heart and skin. I sure am no botanist)))). 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